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- From: Gemini2@cup.portal.com (Gary Alan Peake)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
- Subject: Re: Registrated developer, myth or reality?
- Date: 1 Apr 1996 21:20:07 -0800
- Organization: The Portal System (TM)
- Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com
- Message-ID: <151324@cup.portal.com>
- References: <DnuyrJ.H1J@cix.compulink.co.uk>
- <peterk.0lz7@combo.ganesha.com> <13213857@sourcery.han.de>
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-
- >In Article <peterk.0lz7@combo.ganesha.com>, Dr. Peter Kittel <peterk@combo.gan
- e
- >sha.com> wrote:
- >> In article <DnuyrJ.H1J@cix.compulink.co.uk> jralph@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Jol
- y
- >on Ralph") writes:
- >> >> > I also believe that BIX should play an important part in the budding
- >> >> > developer support network.
- >> >>
- >> >> Why on earth would you want that?
- >> >
- >> >Probably for the same reason almost all UK developers use CIX (a very
- >> >similar system to BIX based on similar software).
- >> >
- >> >At the time C= set up the ADSP system it was very very slow, buggy,
- >> >dificult to set up and expensive to call.
- >>
- >> Huh? All the rest of Europe (and this included by Commodore's definition
- >> Australia and New Zealand) was quite happy with ADSP and found it fast,
- >> reliable, and easy to set up. Funny.
- >
- > I guess it depended on how well the cbmnet was supported locally. It wasn't
- >that easy to get a UUCP setup up and running, but in Germany developers helped
- >one another to set up the local UUCP sites. The cbmnet backbone also carried
- >a UUCP installation package. Last but not least, we had Thomas Giger in
- >Germany to take care of cbmger (an A3500 running Amiga Unix) and its software.
- >
- >> > Hardly any developers in the UK
- >> >used ADSP, we convinced C= UK to allow us to exchange information on the
- >> >CIX conferencing system (a commercial system) which was secure,
- >> >professionally managed and much easier to use.
- >>
- >> And this was one of the worst moves of you guys! This effectively split
- >> the Amiga developer community into THREE worlds: BIX, CIX, and ADSP,
- >> with *very* few intercommunication! It was a hazzle for the engineers
- >> to help for the exactly same issue on three different media. It was a
- >> hazzle for the developers, as they most probably missed the better
- >> part of ongoing discussions and solutions. I have sworn that this
- >> shall NEVER happen again. Sorry for shouting, but this was one of the
- >> stupidest things which happened at Commodore.
- >
- > It certainly didn't help matters. You couldn't get anything through
- >to CIX and BIX from cbmnet, everyone was pretty much stirring in their
- >own brew :(
- >
- >> >And it worked! Everyone on CIX was happy. Everyone on BIX was happy.
- >>
- >> Most probably you simply did not realize what all you missed.
- >>
- >> > I'm
- >> >not sure whether people on ADSP were ever happy or not,
- >>
- >> Yes, definitely, ask around.
- >>
- >> > as we were never
- >> >able to connect to it!
- >>
- >> I put the blame on the UK.
- >>
- >> >UK developers won't stop using the CIX system.
- >>
- >> Please do. Honestly.
- >>
- >
- > Well... I'm of the opinion that whatever information systems are used,
- >stay with them as long as we can break the barriers and have all participants
- >use the same base of information. Asking the same questions three times,
- >answering them three times, posting announcements three times: hell, call this
- >redundancy!
- >
- >--
- >Home: Olaf Barthel, Brabeckstrasse 35, D-30559 Hannover
- > Net: olsen@sourcery.han.de
-
- So ... when will the system finally be announced? We have many programmers
- here in NA waiting for this answer so they can get started. Prices would be
- nice as well if you can get those?
-
-
- Thanks,
- Gary Peake "Mystic Meg" Fellow AMIGA Users:
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